User "chunlee" torrents

[strangeways]

Originally Posted by Delta

Well, this user is doing something because the hashes aren't he same.

Our tracker does check info hashes to see if there is a duplicate so there's a good chance he's providing extra information and things of that nature to make it better.

From the looks of it, even if he just simply downloaded it and repackaged it, they've done a better job on the information provided than that of the original.

Thanks,

~Francisco

The hash is different because the person who uploaded those torrents on Box changed the name of the file folders in the those torrents and since chunlee's are just re-posts of those they have different hashes than Khymer's originals but the same as Box.

Originally Posted by ichigo

I have to agree with Delta. Also a few other points, you cant really say his torrents are ripoffs of the torrents from box by any means, no mainstream group, be it manga, anime, or music release/rip group, uses boxtorrents for their primary releases. In the end, box users are doing _exactly_ what chunlee is doing, taking someone else's bulk torrent or some group's entire release, and making yet another torrent from it. I can't see why box users would be complaining about chunlee's method when it's the same they use.

1. When I was referring to official releases I was clearly talking about Khymer's torrents on DAT, not anything on Box.(And there are several groups that use Box as there official BT tracker like a4e and AHQ but it's not really relevant to this topic)

2. No, chunlee is not doing the same thing as the people on Box. They are downloading files from here and creating new torrents on Box(different hash, no DA tracker). chunlee is taking those torrents and adding DA(and other) tracker(s) to them. They still have a working Box tracker in them. Do you see the distinction? He doesn't need to seed them because they are already seeded on Box and if you download his torrents you are really downloading from Box users either directly(through the Box tracker in his torrents) or indirectly(through DHT or other peers who are connected to DaT and Box). Do you get it now? Or do you really think someone with DSL can seed 500GB worth of torrents or try to seed several multi-gigabyte complete anime series at one time. I doubt if even a Japanese user with 100Mb symmetrical fiber would attempt something like that. A little common sense is all I ask.

If you guys don't mind chunlee flooding the tracker with (mostly)re-posted torrents then that's fine with me but they are (mostly)re-posts not new local torrents.

[Blanchimont]

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by strangeways:
The hash is different because the person who uploaded those torrents on Box changed the name of the file folders in the those torrents and since chunlee's are just re-posts of those they have different hashes than Khymer's originals but the same as Box.

In that case it's the one on Box stealing Khymer's torrents if it's of exact same material...chunlee is just posting the same torrent here that was on box.....
And even if changing folder names might be acceptable, changing the original filenames for the individual files themselves would do such a great unjustice fo all the groups that worked so hard for them...
It would be a different matter if they were improvements or batches of previously scattered materials(I myself made a batch of Sakura Wars OVAs because the OVA torrents out there were slowly dying... And it's a great series..though you might argue that I stole the material from the existing torrents..but should I have waited till they died, taking the files with them from the anime torrent arena forever?... )
Or if the torrent was corrupted or poisoned, you wouldn't want to use the same hash...

by strangeways:
No, chunlee is not doing the same thing as the people on Box. They are downloading files from here and creating new torrents on Box(different hash, no DA tracker).

Who was it again that was stealing?...

by strangeways:
chunlee is taking those torrents and adding DA(and other) tracker(s) to them.

You're missing the entire point...if there's a WORKING torrent there's no point creating a new of the exact material.
Perhaps chunlee chose to upload the torrent from box here because it had a lot of peers and the one here did not or was already dead...
And, I say it again...it's the same torrent as on box..
meaning we on datorrents can have a part of that (anime?) as well...
meaning a lot more peers to the torrent in question...
meaning those peers leeching will be uploading as well at the same time(or are you really saying we on D-A are worse leechers than those on box?...)...
meaning the field comes a lot more diversified over the torrent(less chance of missing a unique piece..)...
meaning(with multiple trackers) less chance of the torrent meeting an untimely death(as trackers die, others rise..if a torrent for something we love, whether it be a cherished anime, a lovely song, or something else, can float on that surface of uncertainty, then we should be thankful...)...
And..how much of the material here(at least when it comes to anime) had not been somewhere else beforehand...

by strangeways:
Or do you really think someone with DSL can seed 500GB worth of torrents or try to seed several multi-gigabyte complete anime series at one time. I doubt if even a Japanese user with 100Mb symmetrical fiber would attempt something like that. A little common sense is all I ask.

I don't have a ubermultiterahyperconnection either..far from it. But I can do other things to help^^. And I think the same goes for chunlee as well. And the above isn't so much a question about bandwidht..

by Delta:
From the looks of it, even if he just simply downloaded it and repackaged it, they've done a better job on the information provided than that of the original.

A good description comes a long way^^.. If you only provide a few words or only a link it will just leave the casual browser confused..(not everyone is a diehard animeotaku 24/7 with a history of decades and detailed info of the entire anime encyclopedia instantly accessible in their heads, couped up night and day in front of their TV/pc screen..there are those that have a life too, you know...that lack of knowledge shouldn't deprive them the right to explore the world of anime as well. We have enjoyed it^^, haven't we..and we had a lot of help too getting introduced to this wonderful world..or have you forgotten?..)
We are a great community, as anime communities usually are, but this one especially^^..
we help each others because of our love for the art of anime..
we do what we can to introduce new people to this world we care about..
we don't judge people, or animes, just by the covers, or go about like a rhino in a porcelain shop..
we watch the animes before we place our vote for them, whether it be good or bad, and same can be said about as people here as well^^,.. or at least that's how it should be...

Ichigo, Delta, you're the administrators..if you're gonna punish chunlee for the viewpoints I've made then punish me too..
I understand chunlee's viewpoints. What she does is also for the love of anime..
I've recieved a lot of help from her, being a total newbie in this field of uploading and torrentmaking, she showed me how to..
And when I get the chance, I too want to help those in turn who don't know how^^..
Because I LOVE anime, and because I love this place for giving me the opportunity to take part of all that^^..
Perhaps this got a bit long_ _ ..but now I've said what I've wanted..

Sincerely, Blanchimont

...and guys, she's a lady so treat her as such...
(though I only found out myself after reading the profile on Demonoid...)

[strangeways]

@Blanchimont

I'm not really interested in discussing this anymore, I just wanted to clarifing what is actually going on since some people here didn't seem to understand.

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...and guys, she's a lady so treat her as such...
(though I only found out myself after reading the profile on Demonoid...)

Yes, and I'm Shaquille O'Neal. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

[KiraRin]

You know, I'm going to lock this for now. If anyone feels they have anything constructive to add to the conversation, then please feel free to join #thestaff and discuss it with the team there.

Otherwise, this is going to descend into a flame war.

H.