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Old 09-24-2006, 05:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A guy that can beat the "break dancer" we have here.

Takahiro from Japan.


--scroll down for a better quality clip--



Has yet to lose.

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Old 09-24-2006, 04:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Woah Vinny has competition!

That guy is awesome! Shame its such bad quality... A cam shot of a tv with a lot of static? lol

What is Apollo though?

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Old 09-25-2006, 01:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Feel free to Wiki "Showtime At The Apollo".

Located in Harlem in the U.S., It's a way for black people to get famous...though nowadays anyone can get into the mix.


I would record it myself (it's been re-run several times now, for the finals), but I find the forums here somewhat boring.

Though I think I might if it comes on again.


So far, that guy has yet to lose, beating even whole dance companies.


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I found a better quality clip of his performance Kira.


Yeah, this guy beats that vince guy hands down.


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...9161D4E7922950


Ah, and the name is reffered to as "Taka Hero"

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Old 09-25-2006, 04:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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no not really. I've seen better than him. You guys were just amazed with him cause so far he's the best you've seen. But trust me, I this big world, he's just an average popper.

And actually, I can't go battle with him. As per term of "Breakdancing" his style is different than mine so I can't go head to head on him. And I cannot do his **** and I know he can't do mine as well.

Breakdancing has a lot of styles on it. We got popping, locking, power and so forth. And not one in books of bboying history was there a mixed battle.

And one thing to note, the term "breakdancer" is obsolete. We are not referred with that kind of term anymore. When you say breakdancer it's more pointed out to a person who dances in the break part of the music. Instead of break dancer, we are refered to as "bboy/bgirl".

His dancing style, if to be categorized as breakdancing then he would fall under popping. I fall under powermoves and footworks. So it's not likely that he'll beat me and I'll beat him.

People these days would call themselves hip-hop though they never really know what it means to be hip-hop. Lots of people have this hip-hop music, but do they know what hip-hop music really is? well, I'll say it's hip but not hip-hop.

Some people would even refer to wearing trendy outfits will give them the hip-hop look. Again, they're hip but not hip-hop.

Hip-hop has four major elements. Namely "bboying", "emceeing", "deejaying", and "graffiti". So unless your thing falls on these 4 elements, then you can call yourself a hip-hop artist.

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If you are pretty convinced that this guy Takahiro still dont have a chance of losing, I'd say go look for online streaming video sites(youtube, google, metacafe, etc.) and see for yourself that in this big world, there are far better and more respected talents. I'd hate to spill the beans for you but most of the greatest dancers around the world(including other guys that can beat Takahiro) are not well recognized and always left in the dark.

And yeah to add an information, I wouldn't mind losing to someone else. In fact, we, bboys, lose for a reason. And you won't understand that reason unless you are a true bboy. I am not ashamed to admit that I once lose to a bgirl. Yeah she's way better than me and I respect her so much in life of breakdancing.
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no not really. I've seen better than him. You guys were just amazed with him cause so far he's the best you've seen. But trust me, I this big world, he's just an average popper.

And actually, I can't go battle with him. As per term of "Breakdancing" his style is different than mine so I can't go head to head on him. And I cannot do his **** and I know he can't do mine as well.

Breakdancing has a lot of styles on it. We got popping, locking, power and so forth. And not one in books of bboying history was there a mixed battle.

And one thing to note, the term "breakdancer" is obsolete. We are not referred with that kind of term anymore. When you say breakdancer it's more pointed out to a person who dances in the break part of the music. Instead of break dancer, we are refered to as "bboy/bgirl".

His dancing style, if to be categorized as breakdancing then he would fall under popping. I fall under powermoves and footworks. So it's not likely that he'll beat me and I'll beat him.

People these days would call themselves hip-hop though they never really know what it means to be hip-hop. Lots of people have this hip-hop music, but do they know what hip-hop music really is? well, I'll say it's hip but not hip-hop.

Some people would even refer to wearing trendy outfits will give them the hip-hop look. Again, they're hip but not hip-hop.

Hip-hop has four major elements. Namely "bboying", "emceeing", "deejaying", and "graffiti". So unless your thing falls on these 4 elements, then you can call yourself a hip-hop artist.

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If you are pretty convinced that this guy Takahiro still dont have a chance of losing, I'd say go look for online streaming video sites(youtube, google, metacafe, etc.) and see for yourself that in this big world, there are far better and more respected talents. I'd hate to spill the beans for you but most of the greatest dancers around the world(including other guys that can beat Takahiro) are not well recognized and always left in the dark.

And yeah to add an information, I wouldn't mind losing to someone else. In fact, we, bboys, lose for a reason. And you won't understand that reason unless you are a true bboy. I am not ashamed to admit that I once lose to a bgirl. Yeah she's way better than me and I respect her so much in life of breakdancing.


Aside from that meaningless rhetoric, we get: "Pfft, like even if I lost there's someone that can beat him".


I'll give you the benefit of the doubt of knowing dance styles better than I do (last time I even checked anything remotely related to the issue was back in the 99-01 years, then I got bored of it and decided to make the music people break/pop/power move to.

I've been watching this Takahiro guy for awhile now )yes they have his footage from Japan in several places(

Honestly, what you saw isn't his best performance.

This is pretty much going to be a contest of what I say and you say, which is meaningless. The guy is good, you are good. Talk is cheap after all.
 
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I don't think this thread was meant as a put down, and I certainly did not expect there to be any flaming in this.

Vinny, you have to admit the guy is a great entertainer, and I think your name was only mentioned because we all know that you're into that scene big style. I really do hope this was not a personal attack, cause I want no part of it!

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It's not really about seeing his best routine and all. As I have said, there are things that can't be understood(or properly expressed) unless you're in that position.

I do not go against about what you said so it's not a debate on each other's point. Yeah he can beat me if we go one on one with his style. And he might beat me as well if we do it my style. What I just wanted to point out is that not because he is good in doing his moves, he can beat anyone else. And I never put it in a way that if I lost, somebody else can. That I did not mean. I just want to share some facts on how people view things and how it should be in the art of dancing.

I go at one point on how you hold such respect about this guy. Well, yeah I respect him for gaining reputations and fans. I just wanted you to see how big the world is. Personally, I never view myself as someone good in the art of bboying. I admire friends, acquaintances, and world known bboys for their skills and I want to battle with them and go farther than them. Being in a dance battle is not about bragging how good you are, how good you bite, or how cool you can pull off those moves. It's about how you can show an image to the audience who do not have any idea on what you are doing except the fact that they see you move exceptionally in rhythm with the music. Adding the factor that music moves one's emotions, it's becoming a battle between the music and the dancer.

So take my previous post as fact not a contra-verse on what you are saying. As a matter of which, as I have watched Takahiro dance in the stage, I already know that it's not one of his greatest pull offs because his personality while performing is not out of extra-ordinaire. He is good in showing up his charisma(which shows why you are in awe), but nonetheless, he is an average dancer if we go deep down to the real life of dancing.

Forgive me if I lack the details on my previous post. But in this reply, I barely tried to put into words those things that cannot be understood unless you know dancing very well.

EDIT: And Kira, I do not see the previous posts as an attack. Don't get me wrong. Not because I said things that are not clearly understood right away means that I do not see Takahiro as someone great. He is cool. Take that from me. But really, for 15 years in the dancing community, I've seen lots of stuff, even dances that average viewers/fans will not absolutely admire. Hence, I am only saying that Takahiro is a normal dancer, who got a shinning spot and has acquired fans, and is using it to show that he is the best.

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It's not really about seeing his best routine and all. As I have said, there are things that can't be understood(or properly expressed) unless you're in that position.

I do not go against about what you said so it's not a debate on each other's point. Yeah he can beat me if we go one on one with his style. And he might beat me as well if we do it my style. What I just wanted to point out is that not because he is good in doing his moves, he can beat anyone else. And I never put it in a way that if I lost, somebody else can. That I did not mean. I just want to share some facts on how people view things and how it should be in the art of dancing.

I go at one point on how you hold such respect about this guy. Well, yeah I respect him for gaining reputations and fans. I just wanted you to see how big the world is. Personally, I never view myself as someone good in the art of bboying. I admire friends, acquaintances, and world known bboys for their skills and I want to battle with them and go farther than them. Being in a dance battle is not about bragging how good you are, how good you bite, or how cool you can pull off those moves. It's about how you can show an image to the audience who do not have any idea on what you are doing except the fact that they see you move exceptionally in rhythm with the music. Adding the factor that music moves one's emotions, it's becoming a battle between the music and the dancer.

So take my previous post as fact not a contra-verse on what you are saying. As a matter of which, as I have watched Takahiro dance in the stage, I already know that it's not one of his greatest pull offs because his personality while performing is not out of extra-ordinaire. He is good in showing up his charisma(which shows why you are in awe), but nonetheless, he is an average dancer if we go deep down to the real life of dancing.

Forgive me if I lack the details on my previous post. But in this reply, I barely tried to put into words those things that cannot be understood unless you know dancing very well.

EDIT: And Kira, I do not see the previous posts as an attack. Don't get me wrong. Not because I said things that are not clearly understood right away means that I do not see Takahiro as someone great. He is cool. Take that from me. But really, for 15 years in the dancing community, I've seen lots of stuff, even dances that average viewers/fans will not absolutely admire. Hence, I am only saying that Takahiro is a normal dancer, who got a shinning spot and has acquired fans, and is using it to show that he is the best.


So the truth arises, you deem me as someone who doesnt look at a "grand view" at the world of dancing with it's several flavours of people.


Your perception is not my problem.


If we were to go that route, I'd say he was the best I've seen out of a good percentage of dancers available for me to overview and compare. If I could see every single person in this whole art then I would.

This was not a personal attack. I was just bringing the spotlight on one of many dancers in this scene. I really haven't put you down as bad dancer.
 
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If we were to go that route, I'd say he was the best I've seen out of a good percentage of dancers available for me to overview and compare. If I could see every single person in this whole art then I would.
And that is what I was saying at my very first post. But I just added something to share.

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nah, don't worry. I never saw it as that from the first place. As what I have said, I cannot really compare myself to him in terms of dancing cause we are simply dancing in different styles.

And besides, whether you say I suck or not doesn't really much concern me. What would concern me are the comments of my friends and comrades about my dance cause they're the ones who can really see my expression and personality.

And adding that you are entitled to your own opinion, if you say that I'm a bad dancer then be it. It's your opinion.

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