Advertisement/Gallery Changes

***Delta*** · 06-23-2008, 02:51 PM

Hi,

As many of you have noticed, there has been some big changes that have gone on within datorrents in the past week and honestly, none of them have been good.

To start, our advertisement company suspended us because of the lolicon gallery and has been demanding countless other 'additions' to the site to make it work better for them. While i've been able to get us reinstated, we've had to make some changes, but hope to give everyone more because of it.

Currently the site has been on a major downward spiral in revenue, making the site not even cover its own bandwidth costs. While we've worked hard to optimize the site as much as possible and have compressed most everything we can, datorrents is just massive. Because of this, starting today the gallery will have a full page ad once a day, and also is running 'adult driven' ads. Many may ask why we don't use these on the rest of the site - quite simply, the gallery makes up 80% of our bandwidth usage on here! Now many may say that the gallery does have a hand full of non adult/hentai related content, which is true, but adbrite them selves stated that if we wanted to seperate the content 'properly' (non adult only on the hentai sections) they would need a gateway (select "Yes I'm of age") on each time a user clicks into an adult category or on an adult ad. We came to the conclusion that it's less of a pest to
you, the end user, to simply deal with the full page ad and it be adult driven than deal with gateway pages and countless other problematic things.

To make it better on you, the end user, though, we'll be also be starting to mass import into the gallery again and getting things back on track. Our hope is to bring in 3000 - 5000 new images every week from an ever massive unsorted pile that our own Ichigo has collected.

While we can't have the lolicon gallery enabled right now, we're in talks with other advertisers to look at getting away from adbrite and their penny paying ways.

We ask that if you have any comments/ideas/etc on how to better handle these two major issues, that you please mention it in this thread and we'll read them all over.

I thank you for your time :-)

~Francisco

Nightdancer · 06-23-2008, 04:37 PM

Well if there is no other way at present then thar is the way it has to be.

Czech Zidane · 06-23-2008, 05:43 PM

They dont want lolicon, but shota is all right? Weird. No little girls, but little boys are OK? I smell hypocrites...

***Delta*** · 06-23-2008, 06:27 PM

well they looked at the listing of categories and they pointed it out.

I'm not sure, I got an offer from another company, i'll be talking to them more to see what's going on.

Thanks,

~Francisco

equnai · 06-23-2008, 07:32 PM

I don't know how things work concerning add and server bills and add-company's so forgive my stupidity, but from what I under stand your renting yourselves out to 1 add company right? Why not rent your selves out to more companys?

AvidLover · 06-23-2008, 10:03 PM

It is extraordinary how people have been so pigeonholed and terrified into avoiding being in any way associated with "child pornography," even when such supposed child pornography is a fantasy drawn by an artist and involves no actual human being. I think that the constant fear and obsession with this issue is actually making the problem worse, driving it deeper underground and causing those who traffic in it to become ever more entrenched in their ways - which leads them to work harder to expose their viewpoints and spread them to others. It is no doubt having this effect, as we see ever more instances and examples of actual CP pervading the 'net and real life despite frantic efforts, draconian laws and insane schemes by the US and a few other wealthy nations to stop it. (Maybe the US and GB can arrest all of the citizens of Japan, Mexico, dozens of Caribbean islands and most of southeast Asia and put them on registries as undesireables! Sorry...)

DaTorrents, I truly hope you bring back the lolicon gallery soon. I very much enjoy all hentai, including lolicon, as part of what I consider (and what many do not) a healthy fantasy life. People like what they like not because of a choice made at some imaginary point in their lives, but because that is simply what they enjoy! Lolicon is one example of an art form, and a pleasant one at that. There are very good and correct reasons for suppressing child pornography as destructive to a society, but once you start looking under every nook and cranny for "possible" violations of a taboo, you start choking off all sorts of important freedoms.

I hope this rant made sense. It's just that I saw this coming and was not in the least surprised. Let's hope datorrents finds some new advertisers, perhaps some based in non-US locations if possible. Most of the rest of the world doesn't have the hypocritical hang-ups the US has.

What about putting a request up on the front page asking for 1.00 from every visitor via paypal just once a month (or some similar payment method). I'm thinking there are LOTS of visitors to the site, and what's a buck? I'm sure many people would drop a dollar for all the good things the site offers, and then we can all get back to our "sick" imaginary lives in peace without some corporate ad clowns running them for us for our own good.

-Avid

P.S. Administrators, maybe you can give us a breakdown of site costs for each month. I've never been able to understand why these types of sites cost so much to run, being a runner of a *small* website of my own. Perhaps seeing the numbers can also get some people motivated to donate a few dollars now and then! (Also, what about making the galleries accessible only after someone pays a 1.00 each month?)

Okay, I'm done now, really.

BEPhungman · 06-23-2008, 11:16 PM

I hope you guys can get the lolis back soon, that's why I come here in the first place.

Bathoin · 06-23-2008, 11:25 PM

I agree. Even though lolis aren't my usual cup of tea, it would be a waste to get rid of the many bytes of lolis you already have.

Greatmilenko · 06-24-2008, 01:18 AM

no more lolicon=no more datorrents for me :'C

get it back!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEPhungman

I hope you guys can get the lolis back soon, that's why I come here in the first place.

exactly

slycoper · 06-24-2008, 05:27 AM

i well try to hold myself,just waiting hope the lolikon came back.

06-23-2008, 02:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
*Delta* Administrator Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 131 Images: 143 Points: 53,217.27 Bank: 558.27 Total Points: 53,775.54 Donate	Advertisement/Gallery Changes Hi, As many of you have noticed, there has been some big changes that have gone on within datorrents in the past week and honestly, none of them have been good. To start, our advertisement company suspended us because of the lolicon gallery and has been demanding countless other 'additions' to the site to make it work better for them. While i've been able to get us reinstated, we've had to make some changes, but hope to give everyone more because of it. Currently the site has been on a major downward spiral in revenue, making the site not even cover its own bandwidth costs. While we've worked hard to optimize the site as much as possible and have compressed most everything we can, datorrents is just massive. Because of this, starting today the gallery will have a full page ad once a day, and also is running 'adult driven' ads. Many may ask why we don't use these on the rest of the site - quite simply, the gallery makes up 80% of our bandwidth usage on here! Now many may say that the gallery does have a hand full of non adult/hentai related content, which is true, but adbrite them selves stated that if we wanted to seperate the content 'properly' (non adult only on the hentai sections) they would need a gateway (select "Yes I'm of age") on each time a user clicks into an adult category or on an adult ad. We came to the conclusion that it's less of a pest to you, the end user, to simply deal with the full page ad and it be adult driven than deal with gateway pages and countless other problematic things. To make it better on you, the end user, though, we'll be also be starting to mass import into the gallery again and getting things back on track. Our hope is to bring in 3000 - 5000 new images every week from an ever massive unsorted pile that our own Ichigo has collected. While we can't have the lolicon gallery enabled right now, we're in talks with other advertisers to look at getting away from adbrite and their penny paying ways. We ask that if you have any comments/ideas/etc on how to better handle these two major issues, that you please mention it in this thread and we'll read them all over. I thank you for your time :-) ~Francisco Last edited by Delta : 06-23-2008 at 02:53 PM.

06-23-2008, 07:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
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06-23-2008, 04:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nightdancer Beginner Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Posts: 5 Points: 2,939.71 Bank: 72,204.29 Total Points: 75,144.00 Donate	Well if there is no other way at present then thar is the way it has to be.

06-23-2008, 05:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Czech Zidane Beginner Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ceska Lipa, Czech Republic, Europe, World Posts: 4 Images: 7 Points: 355.68 Bank: 939.35 Total Points: 1,295.03 Donate	They dont want lolicon, but shota is all right? Weird. No little girls, but little boys are OK? I smell hypocrites...

06-23-2008, 06:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
*Delta* Administrator Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 131 Images: 143 Points: 53,217.27 Bank: 558.27 Total Points: 53,775.54 Donate	well they looked at the listing of categories and they pointed it out. I'm not sure, I got an offer from another company, i'll be talking to them more to see what's going on. Thanks, ~Francisco

06-23-2008, 10:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
AvidLover Beginner Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Police State of the USA Posts: 1 Points: 230.26 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 230.26 Donate	It is extraordinary how people have been so pigeonholed and terrified into avoiding being in any way associated with "child pornography," even when such supposed child pornography is a fantasy drawn by an artist and involves no actual human being. I think that the constant fear and obsession with this issue is actually making the problem worse, driving it deeper underground and causing those who traffic in it to become ever more entrenched in their ways - which leads them to work harder to expose their viewpoints and spread them to others. It is no doubt having this effect, as we see ever more instances and examples of actual CP pervading the 'net and real life despite frantic efforts, draconian laws and insane schemes by the US and a few other wealthy nations to stop it. (Maybe the US and GB can arrest all of the citizens of Japan, Mexico, dozens of Caribbean islands and most of southeast Asia and put them on registries as undesireables! Sorry...) DaTorrents, I truly hope you bring back the lolicon gallery soon. I very much enjoy all hentai, including lolicon, as part of what I consider (and what many do not) a healthy fantasy life. People like what they like not because of a choice made at some imaginary point in their lives, but because that is simply what they enjoy! Lolicon is one example of an art form, and a pleasant one at that. There are very good and correct reasons for suppressing child pornography as destructive to a society, but once you start looking under every nook and cranny for "possible" violations of a taboo, you start choking off all sorts of important freedoms. I hope this rant made sense. It's just that I saw this coming and was not in the least surprised. Let's hope datorrents finds some new advertisers, perhaps some based in non-US locations if possible. Most of the rest of the world doesn't have the hypocritical hang-ups the US has. What about putting a request up on the front page asking for 1.00 from every visitor via paypal just once a month (or some similar payment method). I'm thinking there are LOTS of visitors to the site, and what's a buck? I'm sure many people would drop a dollar for all the good things the site offers, and then we can all get back to our "sick" imaginary lives in peace without some corporate ad clowns running them for us for our own good. -Avid P.S. Administrators, maybe you can give us a breakdown of site costs for each month. I've never been able to understand why these types of sites cost so much to run, being a runner of a small website of my own. Perhaps seeing the numbers can also get some people motivated to donate a few dollars now and then! (Also, what about making the galleries accessible only after someone pays a 1.00 each month?) Okay, I'm done now, really.

06-23-2008, 11:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
BEPhungman Beginner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 5 Images: 24 Points: 1,669.88 Bank: 563.21 Total Points: 2,233.09 Donate	I hope you guys can get the lolis back soon, that's why I come here in the first place.

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Bathoin Beginner Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4 Images: 5 Points: 2,714.06 Bank: 1,842.54 Total Points: 4,556.60 Donate	I agree. Even though lolis aren't my usual cup of tea, it would be a waste to get rid of the many bytes of lolis you already have.

06-24-2008, 05:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
slycoper Beginner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 6 Images: 1 Points: 6,228.51 Bank: 3,942.14 Total Points: 10,170.65 Donate	i well try to hold myself,just waiting hope the lolikon came back.

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