Advertisement/Gallery Changes - Page 8

gwo · 07-08-2008, 07:40 PM

Sorry but I'm going to vote AGAINST making donations, making this a paysite, or anything else that would require one to pay with his/her credit card THAT WOULD IDENTIFY THAT INDIVIDUAL TO A THIRD PARTY!!! Why can't people here understand that?

And besides, I refuse to believe that there is no one company out there(not the U.S.) that would, at the very least, turn a blind eye to Lolicon. Surely, there are some out there that have common sense and realize how stupid it is to blow a gasket over ANIMATED/CARTOON Images....

DXMage · 07-08-2008, 10:17 PM

I doubt that you will find any advertiser willing to support lolicon. I'm sure that they have looked for one and continue to. But till then the only way I see it coming back is if either someone wins the lotto and sends big bucks to support Lolicon for the masses or they charge membership to access it. I don't see any other viable methods. I figure that the chances of winning the lotto are better than finding an advertiser that will ignore the lolicon.

jotaro · 07-09-2008, 09:11 AM

no more loli fun T_T

CCSSHL2 · 07-09-2008, 09:56 PM

this won't work but can we put loli in a different section and not call it loli? yea this is stupid so don't say it is. i'm just trying things to help. even if it is pointless

Angel Avalon · 07-10-2008, 12:02 AM

No one is saying make this a paysite....or making donations required.....just a polite request as to having people that want to keep this place up and running pitch in here and there. As for credit cards, perhaps there may be a way around that as well....I mean, it is only a donation. That means as much or as little as you want. Generosity will keep the loli's free and up and running, but I don't know for how long....we need a more stable way of financing the bandwidth and keeping DAT free....I beleive that is how the people who started this thing WANT it, Otherwise, they would have indeed starting charging by now. People of sound mind, and generous as hell. We need to keep this thing going! We can't stop thinking now......Keep it up, fellas!! There HAS to be some sort of solution.......

Angel Avalon · 07-10-2008, 12:03 AM

BTW......Look to the left......Notice the "Donate" link??? Just thought I'd bring it to your attention.....Don't know how it works though....*shrugs*.....sorry.....

Tyro · 07-10-2008, 05:48 PM

I think that is when you "donate" points to other members for posting good stuff or something like that...

Angel Avalon · 07-10-2008, 11:21 PM

*scratches chin* Hmmm...... ?O_o...

Soran · 07-11-2008, 10:55 AM

The form of advertisement

I agree with what MakaiSenki said about ADs here.

I think it would be a better solution for everyone (for us as well as for the advertising company) to use the following schema:

Text advertisement:
- something like "sponsored by... " at the bottom of the pages or below the images (between the image and comments tables) if technically possible

Images:
- stored locally on datorrents (because many people have the whole AD servers blocked with adblock)
- not too big
- rather modest (no flash, no animated gifs, only worksafe content)

Who would advertise with us?

But sure the real problem is that it might be difficult to find a company that considers an AD on a site featuring loli a good deal.

I would suggest to try to explain the possible sponsors why it's most likely a win for them:

- The most people who visit DaTorrents either like loli or at least don't mind it.

- Even random visitors are the ones who look for something anime or Japan related and have a higher tolerance to loli H than an average person.

- The chances are that even among the people who don't actively support loli quite a few like it. They may be just too shy or too cautious. In the eyes of these people a company that supports a H site/gallery including the loli section would look cool. Let alone the avid loli fans like me

- Now, their biggest problem would be not some random visitors who find loli offensive/evil, but a hate campaign by a competitor or by some loli haters. I'm not sure how big could be their loss due to such a campaign, but if their main target audience are anime & Japan fans, the chances are that it will not be too big, or they even become more popular.

The bottom line: the number of loli haters is exaggerated, the number of loli fans is underestimated. I don't even need to refer to mostly pro-loli forums/sites. Take a look the web log entry and the poll results below. The poll was created by a loli hater and linked to her article where she bashes loli.
Article: theanimeblog.com/the-anime-blog-polls/poll-lolicon-and-shotacon-love-or-hate/
Poll: http://quimble.com/poll/view/4672

I think that quite a few of the bureaucrats responsible ADs related decisions live in the past. The fact that adbrite doesn't mind shota shows it clearly. If they even don't know a simple term like shota, how are they supposed to guess what will attract anime fans?
I wonder if we could find a more progressive company and make them listen to what we have to say... It's not like we lie or something...

I hope the loli gallery will be back. It would be great if it was accessible for anonymous users again as well. Imo a gallery with all possible H sections and anonymous access promotes the values of freedom and tolerance. I for one rarely visited the gallery, I prefer entirely different sources (don’t ask). Yet I donated. Why? See the blue text.

Dark Dragon · 07-12-2008, 06:09 AM

1 months I could not visit the site datorrents for work and when at last I could go back page
I carry big surprise when you visit the site and found no datorrents section lolikon

but in order

I hope to make the new section lolikon since it was one of my favorite sections is not in fact I watch the images
: (I hope that this solution

07-10-2008, 05:48 PM	#77 (permalink)
Tyro Spammer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In a dark room.... I'm scared u_u Posts: 104 Images: 76 Points: 5,019.68 Bank: 7,308.51 Total Points: 12,328.19 Donate	I think that is when you "donate" points to other members for posting good stuff or something like that... __________________

07-11-2008, 10:55 AM	#79 (permalink)
Soran lonely soul Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Age of Evening Calm Posts: 38 Points: 4,157.38 Bank: 3,251.36 Total Points: 7,408.74 Donate	The form of advertisement I agree with what MakaiSenki said about ADs here. I think it would be a better solution for everyone (for us as well as for the advertising company) to use the following schema: Text advertisement: - something like "sponsored by... " at the bottom of the pages or below the images (between the image and comments tables) if technically possible Images: - stored locally on datorrents (because many people have the whole AD servers blocked with adblock) - not too big - rather modest (no flash, no animated gifs, only worksafe content) Who would advertise with us? But sure the real problem is that it might be difficult to find a company that considers an AD on a site featuring loli a good deal. I would suggest to try to explain the possible sponsors why it's most likely a win for them: - The most people who visit DaTorrents either like loli or at least don't mind it. - Even random visitors are the ones who look for something anime or Japan related and have a higher tolerance to loli H than an average person. - The chances are that even among the people who don't actively support loli quite a few like it. They may be just too shy or too cautious. In the eyes of these people a company that supports a H site/gallery including the loli section would look cool. Let alone the avid loli fans like me - Now, their biggest problem would be not some random visitors who find loli offensive/evil, but a hate campaign by a competitor or by some loli haters. I'm not sure how big could be their loss due to such a campaign, but if their main target audience are anime & Japan fans, the chances are that it will not be too big, or they even become more popular. The bottom line: the number of loli haters is exaggerated, the number of loli fans is underestimated. I don't even need to refer to mostly pro-loli forums/sites. Take a look the web log entry and the poll results below. The poll was created by a loli hater and linked to her article where she bashes loli. Article: theanimeblog.com/the-anime-blog-polls/poll-lolicon-and-shotacon-love-or-hate/ Poll: http://quimble.com/poll/view/4672 I think that quite a few of the bureaucrats responsible ADs related decisions live in the past. The fact that adbrite doesn't mind shota shows it clearly. If they even don't know a simple term like shota, how are they supposed to guess what will attract anime fans? I wonder if we could find a more progressive company and make them listen to what we have to say... It's not like we lie or something... I hope the loli gallery will be back. It would be great if it was accessible for anonymous users again as well. Imo a gallery with all possible H sections and anonymous access promotes the values of freedom and tolerance. I for one rarely visited the gallery, I prefer entirely different sources (don’t ask). Yet I donated. Why? See the blue text. __________________ holie.net Last edited by Soran; 07-11-2008 at 11:01 AM.

07-12-2008, 06:09 AM	#80 (permalink)
Dark Dragon Beginner Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mexico Posts: 14 Images: 1011 Points: 16,782.75 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 16,782.75 Donate	1 months I could not visit the site datorrents for work and when at last I could go back page I carry big surprise when you visit the site and found no datorrents section lolikon but in order I hope to make the new section lolikon since it was one of my favorite sections is not in fact I watch the images : (I hope that this solution __________________ Meio Hades

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

07-08-2008, 07:40 PM	#71 (permalink)
gwo Beginner Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10 Points: 5,970.45 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,970.45 Donate	Sorry but I'm going to vote AGAINST making donations, making this a paysite, or anything else that would require one to pay with his/her credit card THAT WOULD IDENTIFY THAT INDIVIDUAL TO A THIRD PARTY!!! Why can't people here understand that? And besides, I refuse to believe that there is no one company out there(not the U.S.) that would, at the very least, turn a blind eye to Lolicon. Surely, there are some out there that have common sense and realize how stupid it is to blow a gasket over ANIMATED/CARTOON Images....

07-08-2008, 10:17 PM	#72 (permalink)
DXMage Beginner Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3 Points: 879.50 Bank: 370.14 Total Points: 1,249.64 Donate	I doubt that you will find any advertiser willing to support lolicon. I'm sure that they have looked for one and continue to. But till then the only way I see it coming back is if either someone wins the lotto and sends big bucks to support Lolicon for the masses or they charge membership to access it. I don't see any other viable methods. I figure that the chances of winning the lotto are better than finding an advertiser that will ignore the lolicon.

07-09-2008, 09:11 AM	#73 (permalink)
jotaro Beginner Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 11 Images: 46 Points: 6,300.41 Bank: 7,344.34 Total Points: 13,644.75 Donate	no more loli fun T_T

07-09-2008, 09:56 PM	#74 (permalink)
CCSSHL2 Beginner Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3 Points: 4,747.67 Bank: 22,202.55 Total Points: 26,950.22 Donate	this won't work but can we put loli in a different section and not call it loli? yea this is stupid so don't say it is. i'm just trying things to help. even if it is pointless

07-10-2008, 12:02 AM	#75 (permalink)
Angel Avalon Beginner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 28 Points: 2,606.14 Bank: 669.48 Total Points: 3,275.62 Donate	No one is saying make this a paysite....or making donations required.....just a polite request as to having people that want to keep this place up and running pitch in here and there. As for credit cards, perhaps there may be a way around that as well....I mean, it is only a donation. That means as much or as little as you want. Generosity will keep the loli's free and up and running, but I don't know for how long....we need a more stable way of financing the bandwidth and keeping DAT free....I beleive that is how the people who started this thing WANT it, Otherwise, they would have indeed starting charging by now. People of sound mind, and generous as hell. We need to keep this thing going! We can't stop thinking now......Keep it up, fellas!! There HAS to be some sort of solution.......

07-10-2008, 12:03 AM	#76 (permalink)
Angel Avalon Beginner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 28 Points: 2,606.14 Bank: 669.48 Total Points: 3,275.62 Donate	BTW......Look to the left......Notice the "Donate" link??? Just thought I'd bring it to your attention.....Don't know how it works though....shrugs.....sorry.....

07-10-2008, 11:21 PM	#78 (permalink)
Angel Avalon Beginner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 28 Points: 2,606.14 Bank: 669.48 Total Points: 3,275.62 Donate	scratches chin Hmmm...... ?O_o...

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)