end of raws?

turalyon · 03-16-2008, 12:51 PM

Japanese ISPs Agree to Ban Pirates from the Internet | TorrentFreak

other forums i read about said they were targeting winny but then its dead. so does this target bittorrent?

Raws can be taken from TVrips, so unless someone will burn it to a disk and send it, will this mean the end of the supply of raws?

i would appreciate it if anyone could enlighten me further.. I might be missing a few points. thanks

**Blanchimont** · 03-16-2008, 02:05 PM

Hardly.
From ANN forums;
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Quote:

You generally pay a state subsidized company like the phone company for the DSL or fiber connection, and then a separate ISP for the data transfer.
In my area (Tokyo), there are literally 12-15 different ISP companies I could use to get internet connection, all in competition with each other....

And when you take into account a fiber connection can have a theoretical max at 100mbs(the practical max is somewhere around 50mbs...), the cost of deep packet inspection/decryption just comes too high...

Winny, the japanese main p2p network at this point in time, has been targeted a few times already...results;
Several other, more secure p2p networks have sprung up and a lot of people have moved(and are moving) onto those instead.

So I doubt there's too much to worry about...

Sincerely, Blanchimont

turalyon · 03-16-2008, 10:05 PM

that may be true but for the sake of argument, the article on torrentfreak says about THE four major isps. to my understanding, wont that mean that those are the kickass isps that lease lines to other isps? anyway the 12-15 isp the user mentioned might have their own lines, so i guess theres really no need to worry. thanks for the info.

**Blanchimont** · 03-17-2008, 01:23 AM

Actually, those "Four" are referring to the 4 main 'head'-organizations that together represent about 1000 japanese isps,...
The talks were held together with JASRAC(Japanese Society for Rights of Authors, Composers and Publishers) and ACCS(Association of Copyright for Computer Software).

mrmental · 03-25-2008, 10:06 PM

John Gilmore said: "The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."
There are many more hackers than lawmakers who really understand the internet out there, and the hackers are smarter.
A lot smarter.
Lawmakers think in straight lines, and hackers think in a much more oblique way. Therefore if you put a barrier in front of a hacker he or she treats it as an interesting obstacle to overcome, whilst the actual placing of the barriers is much more onerous and depressing.
The reason governments are panicking about controlling the internet is because they've just realized the extent to which the control they want is impossible. The net is us. We detect damage? We route around.

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mrmental Beginner Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4 Images: 4 Points: 470.37 Bank: 261.96 Total Points: 732.33 Donate	John Gilmore said: "The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." There are many more hackers than lawmakers who really understand the internet out there, and the hackers are smarter. A lot smarter. Lawmakers think in straight lines, and hackers think in a much more oblique way. Therefore if you put a barrier in front of a hacker he or she treats it as an interesting obstacle to overcome, whilst the actual placing of the barriers is much more onerous and depressing. The reason governments are panicking about controlling the internet is because they've just realized the extent to which the control they want is impossible. The net is us. We detect damage? We route around. __________________ --------------------------------------------------- I used to be a goth until I realised that black sheep is still just a sheep - Me.

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turalyon Spammer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 128 Points: 9,350.74 Bank: 63,594.55 Total Points: 72,945.29 Donate	that may be true but for the sake of argument, the article on torrentfreak says about THE four major isps. to my understanding, wont that mean that those are the kickass isps that lease lines to other isps? anyway the 12-15 isp the user mentioned might have their own lines, so i guess theres really no need to worry. thanks for the info.

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