A matter of style...

[jck_ktch]

Let's, for a moment, discuss some of the content of our dearly beloved DA galleries. As you can deduce from the title DeltaAnime, there is a considerable mass of anime derived art here. There's also a good body of work from manga, eroge, and visual novels... and there are a few other things too, but we'll come back to that. Contributions are accepted in a variety of genre (ecchi, yaoi, etc.) with little discrimination. A lot of places forbid yaoi, furi, and loli for a different reasons and that's is one of the considerable reasons DA is so great. There is such a wide array of things all in one convenient location. Of course, underlying it all is the common thread of Japanese culture or at least Japanese influence... mostly.

There are a few things here that just don't seem connected to the greater whole though. Here's an example: (loli warning!) http://www.datorrents.com/gallery/sh...i=197672&c=247

It certainly could be derived from an animated source and that's enough to qualify it as anime in the Japanese usage. However, it seems jarringly different from the other works on the site. Which is odd considering the wide variety of things here. To me it simply lacks the connection to anime and otaku culture. I'll admit that anime covers a lot of styles within it, but this image seems particularly western.

The question I would like to ask is this: does this sort of image fall within the stylistic intention of DA galleries? Or to say it in a easier way: does it belong in the DA galleries?

What do others think? Where and how do we draw the line? (Remember, while the mods have the ultimate say, uploaders also contribute to the decision of what images make the grade by what we choose to upload.)

[cyal8erloser]

Heh......the rules explicitly state nothing owned by an american company or that is westernized in style or art form. Now if a japanese or other company not in the USA made that, then there would be a conflicting ideal there. As it is by technical means something from the east that went in another cultures art direction. Or you could just say it was done in a western style so even if it was by a japanese company it breaks the rules.

There are a few galleries where you can null and void the no western drawn images rule. like the random images, landscape, nature, etc. Otherwise, the policy is pretty set in stone with the no western artistic images creeping in. Noted the name for Datorrents stands for Delta Anime Torrents. So, heh. Can't say a lot of 3d artwork like that could even be added unless it was made by a japanese or other company. with the intent of the girl in the image not looking from a western country. Which obviously that photo wasn't made by a company or artist outside of the western countries, and very likely not from outside the United States.

Personaly I wouldn't post something of that sort myself, as I think it is overstepping the rules. That's from my standpoint anyway.
*And btw, no linking to hentai material in gallery discussion. hence the term "discussion."

[Tsorea]

The rules also state that 3D art is not allowed in the gallery

[Longbowwing]

Originally Posted by Tsorea

The rules also state that 3D art is not allowed in the gallery

so this member who post these images will get a warning from DAT gallery mods team. Also I have taken the Initiative to remove similar of these pics, because they are just look too real.

The question I would like to ask is this: does this sort of image fall within the stylistic intention of DA galleries? Or to say it in a easier way: does it belong in the DA galleries?

Answer: NO, these 3D loli images do not fall any stylistic intention of DA galleries also they do not allow in here and DAT have no welcome to them anyway.

What do others think?

Answer: I will say, if any mods find out about any images that violate the rules around here. they will be dealt with immediately and seriously.

Where and how do we draw the line?

Answer: where first. some gallery mods including me draw the line when the member keep ignore our warnings such as repost what we delete, ignore our advices keep doing whatever they wish.
AND/OR
member make some sort of threats to us. Such as Challenge us directly, harassment in anyway, making weird curses, etc...

How do we draw the line?
answer: we just follow whats on the rules and act accordingly.

[jck_ktch]

Firstly, I'm glad to see that LB draws a hard line in maintaining quality here. I didn't intend for the images to be modded, but personally I'm glad that they're gone. However, it may be useful to update the imageboard rules because there is no mention of the 3D cgi rule in the rules thread or even the thread for beginners.

Originally Posted by cyal8erloser

*And btw, no linking to hentai material in gallery discussion. hence the term "discussion."

In order to discuss some of these images it's necessary to reference them and this seems to be within the rules. Just a quick note from the rules and regulations thread:
- Mark questionable or offensive content as such when you post it (content is subject to being reviewed and removed at the staff's discresion)
- Any hentai images that you wish to post, please upload to the gallery and then link back to the forum

Anyway, on to the next set of images that I think requires discussion. This image seems to have some anime influence, but is credited to an artist with a western name (Dmitry). His work can be found on both hentaifoundry and deviantart. I get the distinct impression he's from a western country and I feel the influence is apparent in his work. Is it enough that his subjects usually focuses on anime/video game characters?

(Warning: futa content) http://www.datorrents.com/gallery/sh...i=187257&c=252
http://www.datorrents.com/gallery/sh...i=195988&c=252

[ardor]

im not 100% sure of whats considered western (are we talking anything west of japan? or we talking north america/south america west?) i dont know how to call that one, but ive known of dmitry for quite some time, he's a russian artist i believe (or of russian decent, i havent looked too hard into this lol) and despite the fact that he does a lot of futa (i mean like 80% of all his work is futa) i must admit that i really do like his art style. definitely an anime style with a touch of realism. i dont know how the mods will go on this (i must admit, im one of those who didnt "careful" read the rules, and just kinda use my own judgement on stuff to post, as long as it doesnt blatantly break the rules) so it will be interesting to see the verdict. (just saw the 2 images, and i must say.. those arent exactly his greatest works.. ill probably post 2 good ones to give ya a better idea of what the man is capable of lol)

[Longbowwing]

Originally Posted by jck_ktch

(Warning: futa content) http://www.datorrents.com/gallery/sh...i=187257&c=252
http://www.datorrents.com/gallery/sh...i=195988&c=252

We will leave them for now. Before Ardor mention this is a Russian artist work, I will probably find out more where it came from before doing anything else.

Since Russia is not part North American, it sit on the grey area between right and wrong. So we will leave these images in there until the artist of this work say something to us.

Also for 3D images, you are right. it didnt really mention within the imageboard rules. But now I have add it by Ichigo permission.
it is now within the rules now

[cyal8erloser]

Hm, so we're allowed to post images by an artist that isn't within the western and america countries. As long as we aren't positive it's blacklisted, or a paid site?

So we could for say post an image by someone that is in france as long as the artist has no issues with their work being distributed or used on datorrents *I'm also assuming it's anime work I grabbed.*?
Or unless they say otherwise?

[Longbowwing]

Originally Posted by cyal8erloser

Hm, so we're allowed to post images by an artist that isn't within the western and america countries. As long as we aren't positive it's blacklisted, or a paid site?

So we could for say post an image by someone that is in france as long as the artist has no issues with their work being distributed or used on datorrents *I'm also assuming it's anime work I grabbed.*?
Or unless they say otherwise?

cyal8erloser, what are you talking about? You have post alots of artist's works in here that is not within western and America countries.

I think if I remember correctly, there are couple of artwork or images make in France post in here. Since it is in the grey area. We are not gonna do anything to them until further notice. Of course, if the respect artist ask us to remove them then we shall. Otherwise, they will be here.
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Lets clarify one thing:
Furry's artists such as Jay Nylor did speak up to us to remove his works that have been post in our site. Other furry artists have also speak up too. So we have to remove their work that have distribute in here.

[cyal8erloser]

Hm........I have the basic idea down. I avoid posting Furry artwork myself as the copyright on those images are messed up and hard to have permission to use. So I don't upload them at all, no worries there.

I was asking as long as it's anime artwork I could use artwork from a country such as France or Germany. Though, by what you said, it's okay to post. Assumeing the artist has no issue with their artwork being uploaded.

In short you answered my question Longbowwing, thanks.
* Noted, The artists images I upload, I don't always research them too heavily. Unless I'm really interested. I mean, I called Suzumiya Haruhi an artist once lol.*

Corrected that quick fast and in a hurry.