downloading >4gb single files..hd problem?

**Blanchimont** · 05-16-2007, 06:19 AM

If downloading a >4gb iso image and hd only supports single files up to 4gb, does that pose a problem? I remember having problems with big iso-files..till a while ago...

this is what dvddecryptor shows on log:
W 13:55:08 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB
W 13:55:08 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB
W 13:55:08 Drive K:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB
W 13:55:08 Drive L:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB

The E: and F: in the middle belong to my Seagate 750gb harddrive

For now torrents are going to L:/K:, but for the two last isofiles(>4gb)(from demonoid though, but this question might easily apply to files from here too, as well as those downloading them), I directed them to the hd mentioned.

I also made a test by trying to copy them to other partitions(other than E:/F: ), but it simply gave an error message saying there wasn't enough space(which isn't true(for example: D: 57.6gb free)), so the log seems to be right.

Is there a way to make the other ones except single files bigger than >4gb?
Why does those NOT except single files that big, while one does?
Are others aware of this problem?

I'm not that experienced with computers, so If someone could explain a little about this, I'd really appreciate it.

sincerely, Blanchimont^^

turalyon · 05-16-2007, 07:13 AM

im not pretty sure in this, just a theory since i never encountered this problem. I have read the differences between FAT32 and NTFS formats with hard disks.

If u are running winXP and has a 750 GB harddisk, u should reformat it into NTFS, as i see it, ur hard drive is in FAT32. If u google the differences between FAT32 and NTFS formats, it would give u a clearer picture.

NTFS is good for large volume disks and later versions of windows..

vincent_10_27 · 05-16-2007, 08:06 AM

turalyon is correct. FAT32 file system only supports a maximum of 4GB files size. I am not sure about the DVD Decrypter message but I believe it's just a warning that if you dump a disc to an ISO image format larger than 4GB and write it to the mentioned volumes, the DVD Decrypter will split the image file.

Look here: FAT32

I would suggest formatting the FAT32 file systems to NTFS or ext3. NTFS can support up to 16GB max filesize and ext3 can support max of 2TB filesize.

I would, however, only format the volume that needs to store big file sizes. This would lessen the damage on the disk if you are gonna pull out all the files, format, then put back the files. Not a healthy activity for hdd.

aceman67 · 05-16-2007, 10:34 AM

There is a way to convert a file system to NTFS with out losing data in the command line of windows.

Converting FAT32 to NTFS in Windows XP

nxcmp · 05-16-2007, 01:47 PM

As I see it if the machine is used for windows based operating systems, use NTFS, anything like FAT32 should be used for smaller portable storage, like (USB) Flash Drives for example.

**Blanchimont** · 05-16-2007, 03:58 PM

Thank you^^.
I'll look into that.
I guess my second hd must be NTFS(it's not FAT32 because it manages those files, and it can hardly be ext3 as I'm running Windows XP..though I'm not too sure where to check that..)
I guess one hd like that suffices for now handling those kind of files, though I might reconsider it when it's time for the next major upgrade on the machine.

Yet again thank you^^ .

Somehow I have a feeling this question will raise again with the coming arrival of Blue-Ray discs(25/50gb storage)....

vincent_10_27 · 05-16-2007, 05:18 PM

You can use ext3 in Windows XP with IFS. Though I do not know if it will cause a loss in performance and speed. I use ext3 with Feisty and FreeBSD.

I'd say stick with NTFS for now. The Blu-Ray rips out there as of this season are only about 10 GB max. None of them have used the disc's full capacity yet.

If you are really that concerned with Blu-Ray discs, then your only solution right now is to either use the ext3 file system or wait until Microsoft develops a new file system to handle such large file sizes.

seorang · 05-17-2007, 12:15 AM

Yes. FAT32 and files larger than 4GB do not go well together. You'll have to split the file, or, I'd much prefer just converting the whole drive to NTFS.

05-17-2007, 12:43 AM

Tech Talk (01/04) NTFS vs. FAT32 (revisited)

Somewhat short and to the point explanation between NTFS and FAT32. With pictures and diagrams!

kammai · 06-05-2007, 02:19 PM

It is because your harddisk is not format as NTFS. Is that you are using window XP and format your hard drives into FAT32? This is a main problem of it, FAT32 only supports not only bigger that 4GB big per file. So, re-format your hard drives into NTFS format. (PS: Don't forget to backup your data before re-format~)

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Blanchimont Dreamer through Time Join Date: May 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 500 Images: 5 Points: 25,591.16 Bank: 593,738.86 Total Points: 619,330.02 Donate	downloading >4gb single files..hd problem? If downloading a >4gb iso image and hd only supports single files up to 4gb, does that pose a problem? I remember having problems with big iso-files..till a while ago... this is what dvddecryptor shows on log: W 13:55:08 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB W 13:55:08 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB W 13:55:08 Drive K:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB W 13:55:08 Drive L:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB The E: and F: in the middle belong to my Seagate 750gb harddrive For now torrents are going to L:/K:, but for the two last isofiles(>4gb)(from demonoid though, but this question might easily apply to files from here too, as well as those downloading them), I directed them to the hd mentioned. I also made a test by trying to copy them to other partitions(other than E:/F: ), but it simply gave an error message saying there wasn't enough space(which isn't true(for example: D: 57.6gb free)), so the log seems to be right. Is there a way to make the other ones except single files bigger than >4gb? Why does those NOT except single files that big, while one does? Are others aware of this problem? I'm not that experienced with computers, so If someone could explain a little about this, I'd really appreciate it. sincerely, Blanchimont^^

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05-16-2007, 07:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
turalyon Spammer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 127 Points: 6,244.39 Bank: 52,195.01 Total Points: 58,439.40 Donate	im not pretty sure in this, just a theory since i never encountered this problem. I have read the differences between FAT32 and NTFS formats with hard disks. If u are running winXP and has a 750 GB harddisk, u should reformat it into NTFS, as i see it, ur hard drive is in FAT32. If u google the differences between FAT32 and NTFS formats, it would give u a clearer picture. NTFS is good for large volume disks and later versions of windows..

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vincent_10_27 Special Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 876 Images: 1 Points: 1,163.09 Bank: 822,726.46 Total Points: 823,889.55 Donate	turalyon is correct. FAT32 file system only supports a maximum of 4GB files size. I am not sure about the DVD Decrypter message but I believe it's just a warning that if you dump a disc to an ISO image format larger than 4GB and write it to the mentioned volumes, the DVD Decrypter will split the image file. Look here: FAT32 I would suggest formatting the FAT32 file systems to NTFS or ext3. NTFS can support up to 16GB max filesize and ext3 can support max of 2TB filesize. I would, however, only format the volume that needs to store big file sizes. This would lessen the damage on the disk if you are gonna pull out all the files, format, then put back the files. Not a healthy activity for hdd.

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Blanchimont Dreamer through Time Join Date: May 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 500 Images: 5 Points: 25,591.16 Bank: 593,738.86 Total Points: 619,330.02 Donate	Thank you^^. I'll look into that. I guess my second hd must be NTFS(it's not FAT32 because it manages those files, and it can hardly be ext3 as I'm running Windows XP..though I'm not too sure where to check that..) I guess one hd like that suffices for now handling those kind of files, though I might reconsider it when it's time for the next major upgrade on the machine. Yet again thank you^^ . Somehow I have a feeling this question will raise again with the coming arrival of Blue-Ray discs(25/50gb storage)....

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vincent_10_27 Special Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 876 Images: 1 Points: 1,163.09 Bank: 822,726.46 Total Points: 823,889.55 Donate	You can use ext3 in Windows XP with IFS. Though I do not know if it will cause a loss in performance and speed. I use ext3 with Feisty and FreeBSD. I'd say stick with NTFS for now. The Blu-Ray rips out there as of this season are only about 10 GB max. None of them have used the disc's full capacity yet. If you are really that concerned with Blu-Ray discs, then your only solution right now is to either use the ext3 file system or wait until Microsoft develops a new file system to handle such large file sizes.

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kammai Beginner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1 Points: 2,939.00 Bank: 2,347.10 Total Points: 5,286.10 Donate	It is because your harddisk is not format as NTFS. Is that you are using window XP and format your hard drives into FAT32? This is a main problem of it, FAT32 only supports not only bigger that 4GB big per file. So, re-format your hard drives into NTFS format. (PS: Don't forget to backup your data before re-format~)

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