Windows Vista baby! Yeah!

[aceman67]

Any windows vista beta users here?

I just got my copy working today, and I have to say. I'm impressed. the new animations (While being a compleate rip off of Apple) are pretty good, and smooth. The "Glass' is just beautiful, and the transparency is updated in real time, so thats just even better, it looks really kewl when you have full motion video playing behind it.

I have also found that this OS doesn't really suck up much system resources. but that might only be because I have a pretty decent computer (2.5ghz processor and a gig and half of ram, double the minimum req's for the OS).

Few things bug me about it though:

1. The User Account Control (Its basicly unix system permissions), any major changes made to the system require User input to allow it to proceed, and microsoft thinks that EVERY program that gets installed, Changing your account photo, starting Disk defragmenter, or just turning on File Extention viewing requires this. This feature is now the bane of my existence cause it doesn't give me the kind of control that I'm used to over MY computer. and the beta version doesn't seem to want to let me turn it off.

2. Disk Defragmenter. It doesn't tell you the progress any more, only "This may take a few minutes too a few hours". but running it doesn't affect system performance.


All in all, I'm buying it when it comes out.

[cyberbeing]

I'm on the Windows Vista TechBeta. Which build are you running? The public beta2 (build 5384), build 5456, or the latest (for techbeta) build 5472?

Vista still does use more RAM then it should; after using it for awhile memory usage seems to go up to able 800MB when idle with nothing else open. MS needs to work on that.

UAC is annoying but its not as bad as it was in eariler builds. You can always just turn it off or enable the (master) administrator account.

I wish they left the XP Defrag UI alone but if you are interested in their reasons for changing it read here: https://blogs.technet.com/filecab/articles/440717.aspx

[aceman67]

I'm on the lastest, 5427.

I honestly don't see a differnce in memory useage from my XP pro install.

I have tried turning off the UAC, but it won't give me the option (it only says "Turn it on" and I click it and it shows the same page again. kinda weird.)

Whats the difference anyway? Other than visual effects. These can be done by StyleXP and Blinds in Windows XP.

I was not at all impressed. I see a flaw in Vista that I have seen in many Windows major releases. This is the changing of basic menus and terminology that has no benefit from being changed.

The video "Preferences" vs. "Properties" is one example. There are many more.

It is not like the menu items are gone. They are still there. They just have a new name, even though they do the same exact things.

This lack of continuity and senseless change increases the migratory learning curve, increases tech support costs, and is completely avoidable. All they need to do is bother to look at the old product, and any place there is a previously determined menu, use the same phraseology.

But for a tech, they now have to memorize a whole new set of terminology, and add it to everything back to Windows 95, which still crops up. Heck, I know store chains that use entire 98/NT networks because they have no reason to upgrade and overpay for new licenses. And the techs have to deal with remembering all the senseless differences between those OSes, XP, and everything between.

[prh99]

I am not really one for eye candy in OS GUIs, so I tend to turn off a lot of animations etc. If I update to Vista I will definitly be scaling Aero Glass back as far as the OS will let me.

I haven't played with the beta's, but I do know that Microsoft has decided to write a brand new protocol stack and replace the fairly nice one they apparently lifted from BSD. You know there going to be all kinds of flaws when it ships so I am not touching Vista until at very least after it becomes the common OS and probably a little beyond that. Hopefully by then they will have caught most of the remade flaws from the stack in the new one and patched some of the new flaws that will be introduced.


I am skeptical.

[swe crusader]

Is windows Vista something good to get home or shold I wate for something better

[Rinkaru]

Aww.. Im not paying a single cent to the Microsoft. I got my copy cracked O.o So now I dont have the lurking Genuine Checker Utility popping in my taskbar.

Win98 and XP has a major difference. Yet, im sticking with the XP rather than moving on with the Vista one..

I finally got my XP Pro to work perfectly and now I will need to eventually upgrade to get a new OS. . . sadness.

[swe crusader]

I'm going to keep my Windows XP Pro if the new Vista is no good