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Old 07-27-2006, 09:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New Loli Law?

"Due to the new laws going into effect on 07/27/2006 DaTorrents will no longer be allowing loli on the site! We apologize for any inconvience this may cause.
Thanks,
The DaTorrents Admin Team"

Is there a source on this law? Or a site where it's talked about?
 
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It sounds like the Children's protection act
US gov't I think.
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Copy&Pasta for http://hentaiid.com/


Hi, we are still receiving some emails in regards to when the free section will return and I wanted to address some of the issues with it.

Earlier this year when we removed the Free section and started removing all the Lolicon people started posting on Forums that we are going Crazy and that Lolicon is legal et etc, well for all the people that think they know what’s going on in the US here is the hard facts now of what we knew will be coming:

Tomorrow July 27 2006 President Bush will sign the new 2257-Related Bill called HR 4472, in simple terms this bill now includes all visual depictions of simulated sexually explicit conduct.

What does that mean for Animation and artists and websites?

1: Lolicon now is official Illegal in the USA and punishable same as real child porn.

2: All artists are required to provide their personal information for record keeping.

3: all websites have to comply with 2257 record keeping regulations.

There is a lot more legal detail to this but this is pretty much the basic of it, HR 4472 does cover no all forms of sexually explicit conduct including art animation, even a stick figure would be required to comply with this law.

so for now we are do NOT have an ETA on the return of the Free section as providing access to minors to sexually explicit conduct without the correct website labeling is also a breach of the new 2257 law.

I am pretty sure there will lots of post again of all the people that always know everything better when it comes down to what is law, just keep this in mind, yes you can sale drugs till you get caught, same here yes you can have a free site that does not comply with any of the 2257 regulations, you can even have lolicon, but guess when you get caught I hope you have a lot of cash for very very good legal counseling as these charges are 5 years per incident, 1 incident= 1 image.

and no it does not matter where the image is hosted! if oyu live in the us you are braking a us law.

As a corporation we will always try to comply as best as we can with any us law as we do Live in the usa and need to protect our and our families personal freedom before anything else, I hope you can understand our point of view on this issue, this is not a choice made but something that was forced on us.



Also if you think this is bad check this out, the us congress is about to take the internet away from you all:
http://www.savetheinternet.com/

Very sad that we are ruled by a bunch of ignorant morons.



Regards

The Rowan & Hentchiu
 
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wow, everyone is going stupid over this. You know it has nothing to do with loli. If you guys even bothered to read the actual law and the amendments you will see that the law quoted on this site has been in effect/hasn't changed since January 3rd of 2005. The law cited on HentaiID is 2257 which is just a record keeping amendment to Title 18 about having producers of pornography to keep a record of DOB's and such information about their performers. Lolikon is still legal as i see it.

HR 4472 (govetrack.us) - > http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-4472

Title 18 1466A (house.gov) - > http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/f...20%20%20%20%20

Title 18 1466A (cornell.edu) - > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...6---A000-.html

Title 18 2257 (house.gov) - > http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/f...20%20%20%20%20

Title 18 2257 (cornell.edu) - > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...7----000-.html

I recommend you read a bit of these.

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Old 07-27-2006, 06:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I wonder how the lawmakers planned to enforce any laws with "obscenity" when they never define what something of "literary, artistic, political, or scientific value" is.

Even if loli is legal, it seems to be against site policy.

Yeah, that would be the Miller test which was definded in Miller vs. California, so lolicon in general appears to be legal, but some images maybe illegal in some areas. Given the global nature of the internet and that definition of obscenity it's been very hard for authorities to get material ruled obscene.

The new site policy was a response to a law some thought outlawed lolicon. If it turns out to be the case that lolicon is legal I suspect the policy will revert back (that's only my opinion and speculation).
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Old 07-27-2006, 06:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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well...getting the programs for free and almost everything for free is still ilegal so i dont see much change XD.......now i am not into lolicon so Meh.
 
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Old 07-27-2006, 07:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The important parts:
Includes cartoons as child pornography
Tells you what happens if you violate the above section

I'm no lawyer, but that sounds like it's illegal.
 
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Old 07-27-2006, 07:06 PM   #9 (permalink)
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can you guys just give me the main points, i dont want to read so much laws for one day
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Old 07-27-2006, 07:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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(a) In General. - Any person who, in a circumstance described in
subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or
possesses with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any
kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that -
(1)(A) depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;
...shall be subject to the
penalties provided in section 2252A(b)(1), including the penalties
provided for cases involving a prior conviction.
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(b)(1) Whoever violates, or attempts or conspires to violate,
paragraphs (!1) (1), (2), or (3) of subsection (a) shall be fined
under this title and imprisoned not less than 5 years and not more
than 20 years
That should be the important parts, unless you want the exact definitions of "sexually explicit conduct" and all that fun stuff.
 
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