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Soran · 07-11-2008, 11:55 AM

The form of advertisement

I agree with what MakaiSenki said about ADs here.

I think it would be a better solution for everyone (for us as well as for the advertising company) to use the following schema:

Text advertisement:
- something like "sponsored by... " at the bottom of the pages or below the images (between the image and comments tables) if technically possible

Images:
- stored locally on datorrents (because many people have the whole AD servers blocked with adblock)
- not too big
- rather modest (no flash, no animated gifs, only worksafe content)

Who would advertise with us?

But sure the real problem is that it might be difficult to find a company that considers an AD on a site featuring loli a good deal.

I would suggest to try to explain the possible sponsors why it's most likely a win for them:

- The most people who visit DaTorrents either like loli or at least don't mind it.

- Even random visitors are the ones who look for something anime or Japan related and have a higher tolerance to loli H than an average person.

- The chances are that even among the people who don't actively support loli quite a few like it. They may be just too shy or too cautious. In the eyes of these people a company that supports a H site/gallery including the loli section would look cool. Let alone the avid loli fans like me

- Now, their biggest problem would be not some random visitors who find loli offensive/evil, but a hate campaign by a competitor or by some loli haters. I'm not sure how big could be their loss due to such a campaign, but if their main target audience are anime & Japan fans, the chances are that it will not be too big, or they even become more popular.

The bottom line: the number of loli haters is exaggerated, the number of loli fans is underestimated. I don't even need to refer to mostly pro-loli forums/sites. Take a look the web log entry and the poll results below. The poll was created by a loli hater and linked to her article where she bashes loli.
Article: theanimeblog.com/the-anime-blog-polls/poll-lolicon-and-shotacon-love-or-hate/
Poll: http://quimble.com/poll/view/4672

I think that quite a few of the bureaucrats responsible ADs related decisions live in the past. The fact that adbrite doesn't mind shota shows it clearly. If they even don't know a simple term like shota, how are they supposed to guess what will attract anime fans?
I wonder if we could find a more progressive company and make them listen to what we have to say... It's not like we lie or something...

I hope the loli gallery will be back. It would be great if it was accessible for anonymous users again as well. Imo a gallery with all possible H sections and anonymous access promotes the values of freedom and tolerance. I for one rarely visited the gallery, I prefer entirely different sources (don’t ask). Yet I donated. Why? See the blue text.

07-11-2008, 11:55 AM	#79 (permalink)
Soran lonely soul Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Age of Evening Calm Posts: 35 Points: 3,378.20 Bank: 1,842.54 Total Points: 5,220.74 Donate	The form of advertisement I agree with what MakaiSenki said about ADs here. I think it would be a better solution for everyone (for us as well as for the advertising company) to use the following schema: Text advertisement: - something like "sponsored by... " at the bottom of the pages or below the images (between the image and comments tables) if technically possible Images: - stored locally on datorrents (because many people have the whole AD servers blocked with adblock) - not too big - rather modest (no flash, no animated gifs, only worksafe content) Who would advertise with us? But sure the real problem is that it might be difficult to find a company that considers an AD on a site featuring loli a good deal. I would suggest to try to explain the possible sponsors why it's most likely a win for them: - The most people who visit DaTorrents either like loli or at least don't mind it. - Even random visitors are the ones who look for something anime or Japan related and have a higher tolerance to loli H than an average person. - The chances are that even among the people who don't actively support loli quite a few like it. They may be just too shy or too cautious. In the eyes of these people a company that supports a H site/gallery including the loli section would look cool. Let alone the avid loli fans like me - Now, their biggest problem would be not some random visitors who find loli offensive/evil, but a hate campaign by a competitor or by some loli haters. I'm not sure how big could be their loss due to such a campaign, but if their main target audience are anime & Japan fans, the chances are that it will not be too big, or they even become more popular. The bottom line: the number of loli haters is exaggerated, the number of loli fans is underestimated. I don't even need to refer to mostly pro-loli forums/sites. Take a look the web log entry and the poll results below. The poll was created by a loli hater and linked to her article where she bashes loli. Article: theanimeblog.com/the-anime-blog-polls/poll-lolicon-and-shotacon-love-or-hate/ Poll: http://quimble.com/poll/view/4672 I think that quite a few of the bureaucrats responsible ADs related decisions live in the past. The fact that adbrite doesn't mind shota shows it clearly. If they even don't know a simple term like shota, how are they supposed to guess what will attract anime fans? I wonder if we could find a more progressive company and make them listen to what we have to say... It's not like we lie or something... I hope the loli gallery will be back. It would be great if it was accessible for anonymous users again as well. Imo a gallery with all possible H sections and anonymous access promotes the values of freedom and tolerance. I for one rarely visited the gallery, I prefer entirely different sources (don’t ask). Yet I donated. Why? See the blue text. __________________ holie.net Last edited by Soran; 07-11-2008 at 12:01 PM.